Would any Mr Benn collectors want a Mr Benn Bronze?

[Carla]

Okay with the huge successes of the Beano and Dandy Dennis Bronze and the CG Windy Bronze i was wondering if there are any Mr Benn collectors out there who would be willing to part with the best part of probably £500 for a Mr Benn Bronze?

I understand Mr Benn is not a long established collection and that it's possibly not as popular as the aforementioned collections but maybe if enough people show interest then it may be an option for Matt and RHD to equally impress Mr Benn fans with their superb bronzes. Maybe a limited edition of 10 could be possible.

I think if this was possible that the most recognisable model of Mr Benn would be in his suit and bowler hat, although the policeman would be cool too.

So anyone up for a Mr Benn Bronze?


P.S If RHD wanna just do me a one off Bronze i'm willing to talk :)

[Carla]

Wanted to bump this to the top so Mr Benn collectors can comment. Thanks :)

[Anita]

If a Mr Benn bronze looked as good as the Windy Miller one, then yes, I'd be up for buying one. Any more takers?

[Nigwell]

i would say yes if the price was right!

[Carla]

Well that's three of us already.
Any others?

Maybe if RHD could give us an idea of a price for instance on LE's of 5/10/20

If we all pull together we may be rewarded by those kind people at RHD as indeed the CG and BD collectors have been.

Names please. :)

[Draydurbullies]

For that price i guess you would also be expecting a wooden box to be also thrown in:rolleyes:

If the limit size was only 10, then i would be willing to pay triple that price:cool:

With the Dennis at 600.00.
The Windy at 750.00.
Both the dogs at 1,250.00.
All with a limit of 20.

Why would the Mr Benn with a limit edition of half the size, warrant such a unrealistic price:confused:

[Carla]

Wanted to bump this to the top so Mr Benn collectors can comment. Thanks :)

Mr Benn collectors only to comment please.

[Number 452]

I'm not a collector of Mr Benn, although I've admired the figures produced, so as the question is for collectors of Mr Benn I won't voice an opinion. However, if I may ask one question for clarity, would you be talking the same size/scale as the current figures, or something larger?

[Carla]

Just to clarify, a nice size of bronze would be something the size of the BN01, indeed that very figure would be ideal. Although i'm hoping for other suggestions by Mr Benn collectors.
Therefore of course no added production cost as model is already completed, so why would such a bronze cost three times the estimate mentioned in my first post, maybe extreme ignorance of the process involved leads to that conclusion.

With my very traumatic experience with lost wax bronzing at my Art College, it takes equal time and effort to make each and every bronze so indeed the individual costs of a one off would be little more than if a thousand were made. Obviously costs of a box/cert/label would be a small but important factor. Also make such a piece too expensive and they obviously won't sell.

It's really down to if it's really worth the trouble and pressure involved for RHD to produce these bronzes if only five or six people want one. Then again wouldn't it be lovely for RHD to please maybe five or ten people who cherish a collection outside of RHD's more elderly collections.

I know i have asked for NO repetitions of any Mr Benn piece but for this i would make an exception. In any case it wouldn't be just another resin repetition it would be yet another wonderful Bronze that is taking RHD into another realm in the collectable market today.

[Windy Emma]

it would have to be the larger size as anything smaller and more affordable would once again raise the question of would it be fair that some collectors got one and some did not . There has been none of this hassle with the large bronzes as only collectors with vast amounts of cash could buy , hence no squabbling.

[Carla]

Okay so not many for a Mr Benn bronze on the forum, although i rather think that there would be far more interest among the faithful collectorate outside this forum.

So how about it Matt and Co, a Mr Benn Bronze of 10 maybe? :)

[sparkymarky]

Hi

I would like to say yes for a bronze mr benn.

Cheers Mark

[Linda Lovelace]

Yes, I think a bronze Mr Benn is a great idea, and If I had the kind of money the other bronzes are going for, I would love one :) but £500, £600, £700 is way out of my league:(

[Carla]

I understand and appreciate that Linda, maybe if a bronze of an already modelled Mr Benn can be produced i.e BN01 i reckon a price less than those bronzes already produced would be very realistic.
Looks like a fair proposition RHD, how about it?

[Draydurbullies]

Windy Miller and Dennis, along with the Bronze Breed Standards were all made as Resin figure's first....................Still the price was as it was............maybe that was simply down to the cost implications of all that goes into producing a Lost Wax figurine.

I am not 100% clued up but i'm educated enough to know that it's not just a simply fact of pouring some molten liquid into a mold and hey ho a Bronze is produced!

This is why any Lost Wax Bronze produced by RHD, in my opinion, will always be 500.00 + And if i was to be realistic i would have to admit, they could easily fetch triple that amount if RHD went down the route of commisioning them through the vast art galleries up and down the country!

This is why i would much prefer RHD to produce a solid bronze effect, but resin Bull Terrier Sailor.....based on the CC92 as that way, it would be a piece that a lot more people would redily be able to afford;)

Maybe people ought to be fully educated before asking willy nilly for piece's to be produced, because it has already evident that the powers that be, really do listen:cool:

[Carla]

Yes, I think a bronze Mr Benn is a great idea, and If I had the kind of money the other bronzes are going for, I would love one :) but £500, £600, £700 is way out of my league:(

I'm sure we can have a whip round for you on the forum Linda, or maybe if you suggest it officially to RHD by post you will get a complimentary one when one is produced. ;)

[Packet]

Yes, I think a bronze Mr Benn is a great idea, and If I had the kind of money the other bronzes are going for, I would love one :) but £500, £600, £700 is way out of my league:(


Me too!

[Dan]

I think if we could guarantee enough definites then I'm sure it would be a goer. To keep costs down, I imagine it would be a bronze version of BN01 on a marble base rather than a fresh sculpt. I would guess that it would be no more than £400-£500, but it wouldn't be cheap, unfortunately bronze isnt! So really, like most things, if you can get enough people truly interested, then who knows? So make yourself heard!

[Number 452]

There is definitely a paradoxical issue here. Touched upon by both Linda and Windy Emma, the less these cost (and I'm not sure they can be made for much less, but that's another discussion), then the more they become financially accessible to more people. In which case more than just 20 would be required in order to avoid the disappointment of missing out. Of course, the more these cost, the less the number of people who could afford one, therefore the less that would need to be made to satisfy demand.

There are the usual factors that dictate cost, plus one extra important factor. As well as RHD needing to make a reasonable profit per item, Lunts Castings also have to be factored in.

Perhaps if RHD think the idea has merit, they may seek expressions of interest to enable them to cost the item per unit. The problem is of course that once costed, the price is likely to be to high for some of those who had expressed an initial interest, which in turn may result in less items being required which in turn may increase the cost per unit, and so on and so forth.

It's not easy is it, hence I don't envy RHD when they have to decide cost and production numbers not only for this idea but across all the ranges.

(PS whilst writing the above, Dan made his post, so some of my points above are redundant - must type faster in future)

[Carla]

It's not complicated really.

1.Produce a prototype
2.Publish it on the Website
3.Offer as a limited time edition
4.Take orders on a pay up front basis.
5.If enough sold then produce and distribute item, if not enough sold return monies.
6.Mr Benn collectors are treated as equals to CG and BD collectors.
7.RHD gets deluged with letters of thanks from Mr Benn collectors.

Job done, no meaningless complications.

[Number 452]

It's almost certainly going to happen (one way or another), and not just Mr Benn !!!!!!!!!!!

[Windy Emma]

to be honest I would pay £500 for a bronze piece. I may be starting something totally not in demand now but I would much prefer a bronze piece of a mr benn character that hasnt been produced yet! As well as the medium being different the character would be different and all the more rare! I would love a bronze lion from the zookeeper episode or a bronze mermaid sitting on a marble rock from the diver episode! what about a bronze father christmas mr benn?? I know the one out there in resin must of maybe had a proto type??
If I am going to pay big money then let it be for something totally different to what I have already?? how about a bronze group of running dinosaurs in scale to the resin figures? or a bronze of the disguised submarine sea monster.

[Draydurbullies]

to be honest I would pay £500 for a bronze piece. I may be starting something totally not in demand now but I would much prefer a bronze piece of a mr benn character that hasnt been produced yet! As well as the medium being different the character would be different and all the more rare! I would love a bronze lion from the zookeeper episode or a bronze mermaid sitting on a marble rock from the diver episode! what about a bronze father christmas mr benn?? I know the one out there in resin must of maybe had a proto type??
If I am going to pay big money then let it be for something totally different to what I have already?? how about a bronze group of running dinosaurs in scale to the resin figures? or a bronze of the disguised submarine sea monster.


Wow Emma, have you been speaking to Matt:D

[Carla]

The running dinosaurs would be a nice idea, but the model would have to have Mr Benn himself in it otherwise i think sales would suffer.

[Windy Emma]

not if only 10 - 20 are being made on a pre-order basis? please let have something different from the range!

[Draydurbullies]

All Lost Wax Bronze's are i believe open for anyone to purchase, you do not have to be a member, but i suspect members will be given the heads up first.

The Bronze Bull Terrier and Bulldog, as with the Breed Standard are not strictly limited to members only!

So i guess the pool is even deeper, so the suggestions could be interesting to say the least.

However i say Mr Benn the cowboy should be done :cool:

[Number 452]

However i say Mr Benn the cowboy should be done :cool:

I say Mr Davis from number 37 should be done, there's no bigger cowboy in my book, you should see the mess he made of my extension :D

[Draydurbullies]

I say Mr Davis from number 37 should be done, there's no bigger cowboy in my book, you should see the mess he made of my extension :D

I wondered why we have never had the pleasure of meeting Mrs 452;)

I hear Mr Davies lives on blood oranges:eek:

[Carla]

So back to the main topic, and off the usual pointless ramblings, so has the decision been made to produce a Mr Benn Bronze yet?.......Daniel?, Matt?, Cinta?, Becky?, Bob?, Madge?, The Cleaner (if not mentioned beforehand)? Anyone?. We need answers.

[Draydurbullies]

So back to the main topic, and off the usual pointless ramblings, so has the decision been made to produce a Mr Benn Bronze yet?.......Daniel?, Matt?, Cinta?, Becky?, Bob?, Madge?, The Cleaner (if not mentioned beforehand)? Anyone?. We need answers.


The man from dell'...... he says it wouldn't be PC but it will almost certainly be a Mr Benn in disguise, but deffinately not Mr Benn the Policeman:D

Them bogs are fit for a King:p

[Carla]

What colour marble base would be preferable, i reckon the green one to match the CG and BD bronzes.

[Dan]

Sorry, what's a cheese roll? Or am I setting myself up for a joke here?

[Draydurbullies]

Dan, is there anyway of keeping the cheese rolls off these threads?

Now back to Mr Benn.
what colour marble base would be preferable, i reckon the green one to match the CG and BD bronzes.


I would also be interested in what is meant by keeping the cheese rolls off these threads!

I would like to start seeing a few variations to the actual Bronze patina, the bronze colour as a whole, not like the Dennis or the Windy, but a full colour change in the whole patina finnish, not just in certain parts.
The marble base could then complement each bronze, rather than trying to unify them all, as many people will not actually be collecting each and everyone produced.

If a certain person keeps dictating which collections people can/can't be involved in or do/don't collect then maybe there Passion for all things RHD will soon demise:(

Note: Person = singular
People = plural


No one person will ever dictate what i can and can't collect and will never know what i actually collect or don't collect......But if said person feels the need to continuously make theads personal and at the same time spoil many a good posts/thread, then so be it:)



I think the Green marble base would suit certain collectors more than others, dependant on their individuality;)

[Number 452]

Whilst I do not collect the Mr Benn series, I must admit I do like them and accordingly as a RHD member feel that I should be able to post in this section if A) I feel I can add something, and B) Regardless whether I collect Mr Benn or not.

I posted the following earlier in the thread, based on a discussion I had with RHD staff :


It's almost certainly going to happen (one way or another), and not just Mr Benn !!!!!!!!!!!

Either that post was ignored or missed, because the question about the possibility of a bronze was subsequently raised again.

I am sure the Mr Benn collectors will be delighted to have the opportunity of having a bronze figure to compliment their collection. I suspect that the actual colour of the marble base will be very much dependent on the particular figure that RHD end up going with, assuming (and I don't remember the technical term for it) that a particular colour ! is included in the model (I have in mind the red on the bronze Dennis).

The dark green marble base of the Windy piece is perfect, and now it is hard to imagine there being a different colour for this piece. Maybe RHD could canvass the opinions of those who committed to buying a bronze Mr Benn by putting a photo of various coloured marbles on the web site, seeking their preferred choice, although of course the final decision would have to remain with RHD. Just a thought.:)

[Carla]

Just make me a Mr Benn Bronze to fit this Matt and Dan.
Free delivery please.
:D

Irish Conne Marble.

[Carla]

Have you made it yet matt?

[Carla]

Actually re-reading this thread again only highlighted just how many people on the forum alone really want a Mr Benn Bronze that's without those that don't bother with some things as forums.
Seeing as the gorgeous Nelson Bulldog Bronze is £500 i dont see why the Mr Benn bronze would be any more expensive, maybe even a little cheaper, as indeed i suggested in my first post.
It would be such a lovely piece, it would put the icing on a wonderful collection! :)

Come on now SHOUT LOUD for a bronze, we can't have our Mr Hillbilly sitting back looking so smug stroking the patina of his wonderful Dennis the Menace Bronze !!! ;)

[HILLBILLY]

Would the Mr.Benn figure be the same size as the Benn standard figurines or would it be as the Dennis Striding Out?

[Carla]

I reckon the standard size Mr benn would be okay, the marble base would give it extra height, although something a little bigger would be a nice bonus.
Have you stopped dusting that Dennis yet Mr Hills? :)

[HILLBILLY]

His hat keeps the dust off;)

[Number 452]

The price doesn't just depend on the size of the piece, there are other factors that effect the price.

Again I'm no expert on these pieces, but would it be a good idea if somebody who knows how to do such things set a poll to assess which figure would be most popular?

[Carla]

Done, and thanks to Viv's website for the code numbers.